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Re: recfoodcooking website: the "new" one is ready... [message #286479 ] Do, 08 Juni 2006 08:33
cathy1234  
Old Mother Ashby wrote:
> Chatty Cathy wrote:
>> Well folks, here it is!
>>
>> I have given it a new layout = but I have included all the content
>> from the "old" site and one or two new things.
>>
>> Any comments, suggestions etc. would be appreciated.
>>
>>
>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>>
>>
> I think it's fantastic. You're wonderful, if you didn't exist we'd have
> to invent you!
>
> Christine

LOL. Thank you, Christine.

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Re: recfoodcooking website: the "new" one is ready... [message #286485 ] Do, 08 Juni 2006 09:14
cathy1234  
sf wrote:

>
> Recipe suggestion: (I have to step in here, Schaller)
> I think Barb's rhubarb cake should be added under her name.

Your wish is my command.... the rec has been added to Barb's Signature
Dishes..

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Re: recfoodcooking website: the "new" one is ready... [message #286497 ] Do, 08 Juni 2006 10:24
Michael Archon Sequoi  
Chatty Cathy wrote:
> Well folks, here it is!
>
> I have given it a new layout = but I have included all the content from
> the "old" site and one or two new things.
>
> Any comments, suggestions etc. would be appreciated.
>
>
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>
>

Nice clean layout.
Do you want RFC'ers recipe sites on the link page?
Mine is here:
http://www.sequoiagrove.dk/recipies.php

I noted my AEblekage signature recipe: If you replace AE with Æ it
will show correctly.
I made it last week and tweaked it a bit: Roasting the breadcrumbs with
sugar alone can make it rather too crunchy (like bonbons), but a
spoonful of butter will soften it up.


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Re: recfoodcooking website: the "new" one is ready... [message #286502 ] Do, 08 Juni 2006 11:30
cathy1234  
Michael Archon Sequoia Nielsen wrote:

>
> Nice clean layout.
> Do you want RFC'ers recipe sites on the link page?
> Mine is here:
> http://www.sequoiagrove.dk/recipies.php

Yes I do. I will add it a.s.a.p.
>
> I noted my AEblekage signature recipe: If you replace AE with Æ it
> will show correctly.

Thanks Michael. Well spotted. Missed that one. Must have got broken when
we spidered the old site. Will see if I can fix it today.

> I made it last week and tweaked it a bit: Roasting the breadcrumbs with
> sugar alone can make it rather too crunchy (like bonbons), but a
> spoonful of butter will soften it up.
>
>
I have come across so many great recipes while working on this site - I
wanna try this too!

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Re: recfoodcooking website: the "new" one is ready... [message #286519 ] Do, 08 Juni 2006 13:57
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Re: recfoodcooking website: the "new" one is ready... [message #286526 ] Do, 08 Juni 2006 14:23
cathy1234  
Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
> Chatty Cathy <cathy1234 [at] mailinator.com>
> news:xuDhg.36274$2c1.32240 [at] newsfe15.lga:
>
>> Well folks, here it is!
>>
>> I have given it a new layout = but I have included all the content from
>> the "old" site and one or two new things.
>>
>> Any comments, suggestions etc. would be appreciated.
>>
>>
>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>>
>>
>
> It looks fantastic. The only addition I would add would be the link to RFC
> online chat. Thanks for all your efforts.
>
> Michael
>
Michael,

Firstly thank you for your comments.

Secondly, I would also like to put the RFC chat line info onto the site
(and you are not the only one to ask). But.. I asked five or six of the
"chatters" over there the other day about it, and the reaction was
"mixed". Someone raised concerns about it becoming "too public" i.e. it
might get picked up by "bots" etc. or every Tom, Dick or Harry ;)
However... I did a quick search on google with the following:
rec.food.cooking+irc and our chat line came up as the first "hit". So I
think it might already be too late to worry about it getting more
"public" than it already is. I will see if I can get to talk to kalahari
(who I "think" looks after that server). If I get an ok from him, then I
will go for it. Crash and Damsel seem to be off-line at the moment, or I
would ask them - think Dams organized it, way back when.

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Re: recfoodcooking website: the "new" one is ready... [message #286576 ] Do, 08 Juni 2006 17:45
jmcquown  
Chatty Cathy wrote:
> Well folks, here it is!
>
> I have given it a new layout = but I have included all the content
> from the "old" site and one or two new things.
>
> Any comments, suggestions etc. would be appreciated.
>
>
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/

Looks great to me! Can I add a recipe? I was absolutely floored when one
of John's patrons of his paintings told me she tried my often listed here
butternut squash soup and was told her entire family loved it! Therefore,
it deserves a comment at least :)

Jill
Re: recfoodcooking website: the "new" one is ready... [message #286603 ] Do, 08 Juni 2006 18:18
cathy1234  
jmcquown wrote:
> Chatty Cathy wrote:
>> Well folks, here it is!
>>
>> I have given it a new layout = but I have included all the content
>> from the "old" site and one or two new things.
>>
>> Any comments, suggestions etc. would be appreciated.
>>
>>
>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>
> Looks great to me! Can I add a recipe? I was absolutely floored when one
> of John's patrons of his paintings told me she tried my often listed here
> butternut squash soup and was told her entire family loved it! Therefore,
> it deserves a comment at least :)
>
> Jill
>
>
Of course you may add a recipe. Just email it to me at the webmaster
addy on the site. Thanks!

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Chatty Cathy
Re: recfoodcooking website: the "new" one is ready... [message #286604 ] Do, 08 Juni 2006 18:29
jenahearn10  
cathy1234 [at] mailinator.com (Chatty=A0Cathy)
Well folks, here it is!
I have given it a new layout =3D but I have included all the content from
the "old" site and one or two new things.
Any comments, suggestions etc. would be appreciated.
http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
*****************************************
Most of the recipes looked good. I copied the one for hummus. Nice
site. Jeanette
Re: recfoodcooking website: the "new" one is ready... [message #286610 ] Do, 08 Juni 2006 19:00
cathy1234  
Jeanette S. wrote:
> cathy1234 [at] mailinator.com (Chatty Cathy)
> Well folks, here it is!
> I have given it a new layout = but I have included all the content from
> the "old" site and one or two new things.
> Any comments, suggestions etc. would be appreciated.
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
> *****************************************
> Most of the recipes looked good. I copied the one for hummus. Nice
> site. Jeanette
>
Glad you like it.

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Re: recfoodcooking website: the "new" one is ready... [message #286674 ] Do, 08 Juni 2006 20:14
hw  
> I have given it a new layout = but I have included all the content from
> the "old" site and one or two new things.
>
> Any comments, suggestions etc. would be appreciated.
>
>
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>
>
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy - putting on my flak-jacket

looks great to me...thanks for all of the hard work.

Harriet - MBA 2006 (finally)
Re: recfoodcooking website: the "new" one is ready... [message #286755 ] Do, 08 Juni 2006 22:13
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Re: recfoodcooking website: the "new" one is ready... [message #286767 ] Do, 08 Juni 2006 22:30
cathy1234  
Harriet Neal wrote:

>
> looks great to me...thanks for all of the hard work.

Thank you.
>
> Harriet - MBA 2006 (finally)
>

Congratulations!

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Re: recfoodcooking website: the "new" one is ready... [message #286783 ] Do, 08 Juni 2006 22:52
Mike H  
Chatty Cathy <cathy1234 [at] mailinator.com> wrote in news:xuDhg.36274$2c1.32240
[at] newsfe15.lga:

> Any comments, suggestions etc. would be appreciated.

As a "professional" web developer & long time internet user, get rid of the
mailto link in your copyright footer and put up a contact form. reduction
of spam.. Plus, the only error my little checker I have in FireFox shows is
related to the mailto link :)
Re: recfoodcooking website: the "new" one is ready... [message #286815 ] Fr, 09 Juni 2006 00:17
Leila  
Chatty Cathy wrote:
> Well folks, here it is!
>
> I have given it a new layout = but I have included all the content from
> the "old" site and one or two new things.
>
> Any comments, suggestions etc. would be appreciated.
>
>
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>
>
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy - putting on my flak-jacket

Remove flak jacket. It looks great.

I'm coming out of hiding to offer my "collected recipes" page although
it includes only Middle Eastern dishes.

http://bedouina.typepad.com/doves_eye/2004/11/doves_collecte d.html

Warning - it's my blog, it's political, and if you're a right-winger
you likely won't agree with me about *some* things. I normally don't
offer links to the blog here at RFC because it is political and I don't
feel like going off topic.

If we stick to food, we'll be fine.

Fond regards,
Blue State Leila
lives in blue-est county of California
Barbara Lee speaks for me!
Re: recfoodcooking website: the "new" one is ready... [message #286817 ] Do, 08 Juni 2006 23:55
Default User  
Mike H wrote:

> Chatty Cathy <cathy1234 [at] mailinator.com> wrote in
> news:xuDhg.36274$2c1.32240 [at] newsfe15.lga:
>
> > Any comments, suggestions etc. would be appreciated.
>
> As a "professional" web developer & long time internet user, get rid
> of the mailto link in your copyright footer and put up a contact
> form. reduction of spam.. Plus, the only error my little checker I
> have in FireFox shows is related to the mailto link :)

That's a good idea. If you write your own, be aware of email injection
attacks. There's plenty of prefab stuff though.



Brian

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Re: recfoodcooking website: the "new" one is ready... [message #286976 ] Fr, 09 Juni 2006 08:36
Mike H  
"Default User" <defaultuserbr [at] yahoo.com> wrote in
news:J0KA7y.4wx [at] news.boeing.com:

>> As a "professional" web developer & long time internet user, get rid
>> of the mailto link in your copyright footer and put up a contact
>> form. reduction of spam.. Plus, the only error my little checker I
>> have in FireFox shows is related to the mailto link :)
>
> That's a good idea. If you write your own, be aware of email injection
> attacks. There's plenty of prefab stuff though.

Just don't use Matt's Formmail :) (email injection issues that seem to
always persist in the script).
Re: recfoodcooking website: the "new" one is ready... [message #286985 ] Fr, 09 Juni 2006 10:44
Jack  
Mike H wrote:
> "Default User" <defaultuserbr [at] yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:J0KA7y.4wx [at] news.boeing.com:
>
>>> As a "professional" web developer & long time internet user, get rid
>>> of the mailto link in your copyright footer and put up a contact
>>> form. reduction of spam.. Plus, the only error my little checker I
>>> have in FireFox shows is related to the mailto link :)
>>>
>> That's a good idea. If you write your own, be aware of email injection
>> attacks. There's plenty of prefab stuff though.

Personally I find the 'contact us' pages that some sites put up a pain,
the composition window is generally too small, and they want to know
your grand-mother's maiden name and cat's favorite food before they let
you hit the send button.
For r.f.c. there is also a requirement to be able to send
attachments/contributions, so it does need a real e-mail address (I know
one can put in an 'attach' button in like some webmail servers do, but
that is a bit primitive, and opens up another can of possible
vulnerabilities). From other domains I know that the RFC2142 accounts
are generally shunned by spammers; postmaster gets 0 spam, webnaster
maybe one 'push your search engine ratings' per *month*. A typical
generic account (that gets used on 'contact us' forms that insist on a
valid email address) gets about 50 msgs/*day* spam.

> Just don't use Matt's Formmail :) (email injection issues that seem to
> always persist in the script).

Yup. Most 'standard' solutions have had some problems at one day or
other, but if something has been around for a while and no more major
vulnerabilities have been found in the last year or so I assume it would
be OK to use it.
Even though this server isn't used for outgoing mail at the moment I
don't have any desire for it to end up on blacklists, so for now we take
the easy way out and don't put anything on the site that might be used
for mail injection.

J. (who owns the server)
Re: recfoodcooking website: the "new" one is ready... [message #286988 ] Fr, 09 Juni 2006 11:06
cathy1234  
Leila wrote:
>
> Warning - it's my blog, it's political, and if you're a right-winger
> you likely won't agree with me about *some* things. I normally don't
> offer links to the blog here at RFC because it is political and I don't
> feel like going off topic.
>
> If we stick to food, we'll be fine.

I agree. I like your recipes, Leila and I am sure many other RFC'ers
will too. I have added the link, (which goes directly into your recipes
page)... As for your "warning" - it's just what it says - a link. No-one
is forced to click on it and if they do, they do so at their own risk. <eg>

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Re: recfoodcooking website: the "new" one is ready... [message #286989 ] Fr, 09 Juni 2006 11:37
cathy1234  
Mike H wrote:
> Chatty Cathy <cathy1234 [at] mailinator.com> wrote in news:xuDhg.36274$2c1.32240
> [at] newsfe15.lga:
>
>> Any comments, suggestions etc. would be appreciated.
>
> As a "professional" web developer & long time internet user, get rid of the
> mailto link in your copyright footer and put up a contact form. reduction
> of spam..

No. :)

Plus, the only error my little checker I have in FireFox shows is
> related to the mailto link :)

Heh. I would be interested to know which "little checker" you have. I
ran those pages thru validator.w3.org and they "passed". I had to, you
should have seen my code when I started... it was a mess. DH is the
professional is this house, not me - but I am having fun learning ;)

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Chatty Cathy
Re: recfoodcooking website: the "new" one is ready... [message #287057 ] Fr, 09 Juni 2006 16:37
CHI-MUM  
>> I have given it a new layout = but I have included all the content from
>> the "old" site and one or two new things.
>>
>> Any comments, suggestions etc. would be appreciated.
>>
>>
>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/


Looks super to me!

I'll be sending you my regular favourites.

MoM
Re: recfoodcooking website: the "new" one is ready... [message #287104 ] Fr, 09 Juni 2006 18:29
Default User  
Mike H wrote:

> "Default User" <defaultuserbr [at] yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:J0KA7y.4wx [at] news.boeing.com:
>
> >> As a "professional" web developer & long time internet user, get
> rid >> of the mailto link in your copyright footer and put up a
> contact >> form. reduction of spam.. Plus, the only error my little
> checker I >> have in FireFox shows is related to the mailto link :)
> >
> > That's a good idea. If you write your own, be aware of email
> > injection attacks. There's plenty of prefab stuff though.
>
> Just don't use Matt's Formmail :) (email injection issues that seem
> to always persist in the script).

Matt's had bigger problems than that, as I recall. It allowed you
specify the recipient, so it really was a spammer's delight. However,
any email form that doesn't check the "from" address for carriage
returns is vulnerable to email injection.



Brian

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Re: recfoodcooking website: the "new" one is ready... [message #287145 ] Fr, 09 Juni 2006 19:57
Mike H  
Chatty Cathy <cathy1234 [at] mailinator.com> wrote in news:03snl3-vmd.ln1
[at] foo.bar:

> Heh. I would be interested to know which "little checker" you have. I
> ran those pages thru validator.w3.org and they "passed". I had to, you
> should have seen my code when I started... it was a mess. DH is the
> professional is this house, not me - but I am having fun learning ;)
>

Actualy, that was a misstatement, it was a warning, not an error, and I
didn't see exactly what the error was, but I didn't take much time to look
at it.
Re: recfoodcooking website: the "new" one is ready... [message #287251 ] Fr, 09 Juni 2006 23:47
azazello  
Mike H <mdhalbrook [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

> As a "professional" web developer & long time internet user, get rid of the
> mailto link in your copyright footer and put up a contact form. reduction
> of spam..

Most address-harvesting bots can be easily fooled by simply obfuscating
the address. Just convert the characters into hex or HTML. For
example, " [at] " can be written as "&#64;". The address will look exactly
the same in the browser and will remain just as "clickable" as before.
For example, the address I use for posting the rfc FAQ is
<cooking_faq [at] mac.com>. On the Web site, if you look at the source, it
is spelt out as
" &#099;&#111;&#111;&#107;&#105;&#110; &#103;&#095;&#102;&#097;&#113;&#064
;&#109;&#097;&#099;&#046;&#099;&#111 ;&#109; ".
There are online "obfuscators" aplenty...

Or else convert the address into an image, but then it will no longer be
"clickable"...

Victor
Re: recfoodcooking website: the "new" one is ready... [message #287266 ] Sa, 10 Juni 2006 01:30
cathy1234  
Victor Sack wrote:
> Most address-harvesting bots can be easily fooled by simply obfuscating
> the address. Just convert the characters into hex or HTML. For
> example, " [at] " can be written as "&#64;". The address will look exactly
> the same in the browser and will remain just as "clickable" as before.
> For example, the address I use for posting the rfc FAQ is
> <cooking_faq [at] mac.com>. On the Web site, if you look at the source, it
> is spelt out as
> " &#099;&#111;&#111;&#107;&#105;&#110; &#103;&#095;&#102;&#097;&#113;&#064
> ;&#109;&#097;&#099;&#046;&#099;&#111 ;&#109; ".
> There are online "obfuscators" aplenty...
>
> Or else convert the address into an image, but then it will no longer be
> "clickable"...

Good point, didn't think the bots were that stupid anymore, but probably
quite a few of them still are. Have done as you suggested on the local
copy of the site and it seems to work... Will push it to the live site
soon. Thanks.

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Re: recfoodcooking website: the "new" one is ready... [message #287598 ] So, 11 Juni 2006 01:41
sf  
On 8 Jun 2006 15:17:54 -0700, Leila wrote:

> I'm coming out of hiding to offer my "collected recipes" page although
> it includes only Middle Eastern dishes.

http://bedouina.typepad.com/doves_eye/2004/03/baba_ghanoush_ s.html

I think I'll try that Baba Ghanoush Soufflé, Leila!

:)
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Re: recfoodcooking website: the "new" one is ready... [message #288266 ] Di, 13 Juni 2006 07:34
Anne Mitchell Young  
On 2006-06-08 15:17:54 -0700, "Leila" <leila_abu-saba [at] hotmail.com> said:

>
> Remove flak jacket. It looks great.

Oh, I agree! It looks fabulous!

> Warning - it's my blog, it's political, and if you're a right-winger
> you likely won't agree with me about *some* things. I normally don't
> offer links to the blog here at RFC because it is political and I don't
> feel like going off topic.
>
> If we stick to food, we'll be fine.

Heh.

You have NO idea how glad I am to see you here, Leila!

And your ancho chocolate cake on the RFC site! ONE of these days I'm
going to make that thing - I keep looking for the bundt pan you use,
and if I ever find one, the first thing I do with it will be to make
that cake!

>
> Fond regards,
> Blue State Leila
> lives in blue-est county of California
> Barbara Lee speaks for me!

Blue state Anne
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