| Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #282706] |
So, 28 Mai 2006 03:04 |
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Right now at 2100?
Andy
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #282714 ] |
So, 28 Mai 2006 03:13 |
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Andy wrote:
> Right now at 2100?
No.
I am reading news groups for about two more minutes and then
I have to decide whether to go into town and watch fireworks
or watch the Oilers beat San Jose.
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #282718 ] |
So, 28 Mai 2006 03:53 |
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Andy wrote:
> Right now at 2100?
>
> Andy
2100 would be the Sci-Fi Channel, not the History Channel. HTH :-)
Bob
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #282722 ] |
So, 28 Mai 2006 04:12 |
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Andy wrote:
> Right now at 2100?
>
> Andy
No, why? Did something change that we don't know about? ;)
Jill
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #282764 ] |
So, 28 Mai 2006 07:47 |
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jmcquown wrote:
> Andy wrote:
> > Right now at 2100?
> >
> > Andy
>
> No, why? Did something change that we don't know about? ;)
I think I remember from glancing at the cable schedule that they were
doing some shows about snack foods, etc. Looked similar to those info
- mercial type food shows that Al Roker and others do on the FoodTV
network, e.g. not very interesting...yawn.
I DID however see something interesting food - related late the other
night on the Game Show Network. On a late 1963 episode of _What's My
Line?_ they had Colonel Sanders as a guest. He was not the celebrity
"Mystery Guest" that the panelists blindfold themselves for, he was
simply a regular guest who signed in as "Colonel Harlan Sanders" and
they tried to guess his occupation (which was flashed to the TV
audience as "Founded a chain of fried chicken restaurants"). None of
the sophisticated New York panel (Arlene Francis, Dorothy Kilgallen,
Bennett Cerf...) correctly guessed his "line". This despite the fact
that KFC was well - established in the South by that time, and they
even had an outlet in London. Interesting how "regional" the US used
to be...
--
Best
Greg
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #282781 ] |
So, 28 Mai 2006 12:25 |
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Andy wrote:
> Right now at 2100?
>
> Andy
I wish I could :( I keep forgetting to call the cable company about the
fact that I get a blank screen on the history channel. I can only seem
to remember when there is something on I really want to watch
Roberta (in VA)
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #282814 ] |
So, 28 Mai 2006 16:49 |
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On Sun, 28 May 2006 06:25:31 -0400, Roberta <roberta.nospam [at] gmail.com>
wrote:
>Andy wrote:
>> Right now at 2100?
>>
>> Andy
>
>I wish I could :( I keep forgetting to call the cable company about the
>fact that I get a blank screen on the history channel. I can only seem
>to remember when there is something on I really want to watch
>
>Roberta (in VA)
Have you tried rebooting the cable box? Sometimes when I get a blank
on certain channels, rebooting does the trick. In any case, that will
be their first suggestion when you call!
Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #282844 ] |
So, 28 Mai 2006 18:10 |
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"Andy" <q> wrote in message news:Xns97D0D660A37BEcotd [at] 216.196.97.136...
> Right now at 2100?
When I turned it on it was a show about Getting Hooked and marijuana.
Was wondering what you were trying to say.
nancy
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #282846 ] |
So, 28 Mai 2006 17:58 |
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In article <1148795260.905275.311650 [at] 38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
gregorymorrow [at] earthlink.net says...
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> jmcquown wrote:
>
> > Andy wrote:
> > > Right now at 2100?
> > >
> > > Andy
> >
> > No, why? Did something change that we don't know about? ;)
>
>
> I think I remember from glancing at the cable schedule that they were
> doing some shows about snack foods, etc. Looked similar to those info
> - mercial type food shows that Al Roker and others do on the FoodTV
> network, e.g. not very interesting...yawn.
>
> I DID however see something interesting food - related late the other
> night on the Game Show Network. On a late 1963 episode of _What's My
> Line?_ they had Colonel Sanders as a guest. He was not the celebrity
> "Mystery Guest" that the panelists blindfold themselves for, he was
> simply a regular guest who signed in as "Colonel Harlan Sanders" and
> they tried to guess his occupation (which was flashed to the TV
> audience as "Founded a chain of fried chicken restaurants"). None of
> the sophisticated New York panel (Arlene Francis, Dorothy Kilgallen,
> Bennett Cerf...) correctly guessed his "line". This despite the fact
> that KFC was well - established in the South by that time, and they
> even had an outlet in London. Interesting how "regional" the US used
> to be...
I caught about 15 or 20 minutes of one of the programs concerning the
manufacture of ice cream and other confections.
Amazing to realize how automated most of it is. That's a particular
treat for someone into robotics. But then, Toyota's NUMI plant uses
robots to complete more than half the vehicle assembly tasks.
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #282849 ] |
So, 28 Mai 2006 18:18 |
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On Sat, 27 May 2006 20:04:07 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:
>Right now at 2100?
>
>Andy
Why do you ask?
Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #282860 ] |
So, 28 Mai 2006 19:01 |
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Roberta wrote:
> Andy wrote:
>
>> Right now at 2100?
>>
>> Andy
>
>
> I wish I could :( I keep forgetting to call the cable company about the
> fact that I get a blank screen on the history channel. I can only seem
> to remember when there is something on I really want to watch
>
> Roberta (in VA)
First, check all the cables. Make sure they're on tight. Next, swap
them out with known good ones.
It could also be a problem with signal strength. Using cheap,
poorly made splitters can degrade the signal to the point where
channels start dropping out. I've seen it happen.
--
Reg
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #282870 ] |
So, 28 Mai 2006 19:22 |
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In article <zHkeg.18756$fb2.8898 [at] newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>,
reg [at] nospam.com says...
> Roberta wrote:
>
> > Andy wrote:
> >
> >> Right now at 2100?
> >>
> >> Andy
> >
> >
> > I wish I could :( I keep forgetting to call the cable company about the
> > fact that I get a blank screen on the history channel. I can only seem
> > to remember when there is something on I really want to watch
> >
> > Roberta (in VA)
>
> First, check all the cables. Make sure they're on tight. Next, swap
> them out with known good ones.
>
> It could also be a problem with signal strength. Using cheap,
> poorly made splitters can degrade the signal to the point where
> channels start dropping out. I've seen it happen.
In my case, I have a cat that likes to chew on coaxial cable. That's the
usual culprit.
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #282901 ] |
So, 28 Mai 2006 20:46 |
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T wrote:
> In my case, I have a cat that likes to chew on coaxial cable. That's the
> usual culprit.
That'll sure do it.
Makes you sorry cable signals aren't higher power. Fluffy would
never try that twice.
--
Reg
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #282926 ] |
So, 28 Mai 2006 22:14 |
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In article <Vdmeg.35199$4L1.10117 [at] newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>,
reg [at] nospam.com says...
> T wrote:
>
> > In my case, I have a cat that likes to chew on coaxial cable. That's the
> > usual culprit.
>
> That'll sure do it.
>
> Makes you sorry cable signals aren't higher power. Fluffy would
> never try that twice.
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>
Randy has chewed through electrical cables too. Never seems to get
zapped. So now I've tucked away most cables but there are certain parts
that no matter what I do I can't protect.
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #282949 ] |
So, 28 Mai 2006 23:41 |
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"Nancy Young" <qwerty [at] monmouth.com> wrote in news:e5ci15$mtq$1
[at] news.monmouth.com:
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> "Andy" <q> wrote in message news:Xns97D0D660A37BEcotd [at]
216.196.97.136...
>> Right now at 2100?
>
> When I turned it on it was a show about Getting Hooked and marijuana.
> Was wondering what you were trying to say.
>
> nancy
We have a winner!!!
The marijuana program was funny to an extent. How they illegalized a
weed (literally!) is beyond me.
I whiffed my share of marijuana again at the Jam on the River today.
Overheard a kid asking "who's got papers?" "Don't worry, we're covered."
My Mom took a pharmachology class and told me she finally believes
marijuana is safer than alcohol. I asked her to bake me some cookies! ;)
Andy
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #282962 ] |
Mo, 29 Mai 2006 00:02 |
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In article <Xns97D1B409064A4cotd [at] 216.196.97.136>, Andy <q> says...
> "Nancy Young" <qwerty [at] monmouth.com> wrote in news:e5ci15$mtq$1
> [at] news.monmouth.com:
>
> >
> > "Andy" <q> wrote in message news:Xns97D0D660A37BEcotd [at]
> 216.196.97.136...
> >> Right now at 2100?
> >
> > When I turned it on it was a show about Getting Hooked and marijuana.
> > Was wondering what you were trying to say.
> >
> > nancy
>
>
> We have a winner!!!
>
> The marijuana program was funny to an extent. How they illegalized a
> weed (literally!) is beyond me.
>
> I whiffed my share of marijuana again at the Jam on the River today.
> Overheard a kid asking "who's got papers?" "Don't worry, we're covered."
>
> My Mom took a pharmachology class and told me she finally believes
> marijuana is safer than alcohol. I asked her to bake me some cookies! ;)
The only reason we won't see it legalized is because the alcohol lobby
has congress firmly in pocket.
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #282974 ] |
Mo, 29 Mai 2006 00:46 |
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"Andy" <q> wrote
> "Nancy Young" <qwerty [at] monmouth.com> wrote
>> When I turned it on it was a show about Getting Hooked and marijuana.
>> Was wondering what you were trying to say.
> We have a winner!!!
>
> The marijuana program was funny to an extent. How they illegalized a
> weed (literally!) is beyond me.
It's just ludicrous. It would be funny if people weren't getting
into trouble for it. Meanwhile you want to drink yourself into a
coma, go ahead.
> I whiffed my share of marijuana again at the Jam on the River today.
> Overheard a kid asking "who's got papers?" "Don't worry, we're covered."
>
> My Mom took a pharmachology class and told me she finally believes
> marijuana is safer than alcohol. I asked her to bake me some cookies! ;)
(laugh) What, brownies not good enough for you?
nancy
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #283022 ] |
Mo, 29 Mai 2006 03:08 |
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Gregory Morrow wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Andy wrote:
>>> Right now at 2100?
>>>
>>> Andy
>>
>> No, why? Did something change that we don't know about? ;)
>
>
> I think I remember from glancing at the cable schedule that they were
> doing some shows about snack foods, etc. Looked similar to those info
> - mercial type food shows that Al Roker and others do on the FoodTV
> network, e.g. not very interesting...yawn.
>
> I DID however see something interesting food - related late the other
> night on the Game Show Network. On a late 1963 episode of _What's My
> Line?_ they had Colonel Sanders as a guest. He was not the celebrity
> "Mystery Guest" that the panelists blindfold themselves for, he was
> simply a regular guest who signed in as "Colonel Harlan Sanders" and
> they tried to guess his occupation (which was flashed to the TV
> audience as "Founded a chain of fried chicken restaurants"). None of
> the sophisticated New York panel (Arlene Francis, Dorothy Kilgallen,
> Bennett Cerf...) correctly guessed his "line". This despite the fact
> that KFC was well - established in the South by that time, and they
> even had an outlet in London. Interesting how "regional" the US used
> to be...
Whew! I thought for a moment they found out Christopher Columbus didn't
actually intend to find a short route for China for spices, after all! (man
was he way off track!)
Jill
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #283034 ] |
Mo, 29 Mai 2006 04:52 |
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Nancy Young wrote on 28 May 2006 in rec.food.cooking
> How they illegalized a
> > weed (literally!) is beyond me.
>
Weed??? it was very useful...ever heard of hemp rope or cordage?
--
-Alan
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #283042 ] |
Mo, 29 Mai 2006 05:37 |
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Mr Libido Incognito wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote on 28 May 2006 in rec.food.cooking
>
>> How they illegalized a
>>> weed (literally!) is beyond me.
>
> Weed??? it was very useful...ever heard of hemp rope or cordage?
>
yea but will it fit in a bong?
Grtizzman
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #283096 ] |
Mo, 29 Mai 2006 14:11 |
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Andy wrote:
> We have a winner!!!
>
> The marijuana program was funny to an extent. How they illegalized a
> weed (literally!) is beyond me.
>
> I whiffed my share of marijuana again at the Jam on the River today.
> Overheard a kid asking "who's got papers?" "Don't worry, we're covered."
>
> My Mom took a pharmachology class and told me she finally believes
> marijuana is safer than alcohol. I asked her to bake me some cookies! ;)
It's a damned shame. By criminalizing marijuana they put it in the same
class as heavier, more dangerous and addicting drugs so it is easier for
kids to step over the line. If they had access to pot they probably
wouldn't bother with the others. Criminalization also makes drug
trafficking lucrative. If some of the heavier drugs were legalized the
biggest losers would be the drug cartels.
To give you an idea of the cost of legal vs. illegal drugs. I few years ago
I was taking oxycontin, a heavy duty pain killer. A prescription for 30
pills was about $14.00. The same pills sell on the street for $20 each.
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #283145 ] |
Mo, 29 Mai 2006 17:47 |
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Reg wrote:
> Roberta wrote:
>
>> Andy wrote:
>>
>>> Right now at 2100?
>>>
>>> Andy
>>
>>
>> I wish I could :( I keep forgetting to call the cable company about
>> the fact that I get a blank screen on the history channel. I can only
>> seem to remember when there is something on I really want to watch
>>
>> Roberta (in VA)
>
> First, check all the cables. Make sure they're on tight. Next, swap
> them out with known good ones.
>
> It could also be a problem with signal strength. Using cheap,
> poorly made splitters can degrade the signal to the point where
> channels start dropping out. I've seen it happen.
>
No splitters - both TV's are connected right to the wall jack. Good
cables, my husband has a thing about that. AND both televisions have the
same thing so it's something going on with the cable itself *shrug* I
really have to remember to call them about it
Roberta
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #283146 ] |
Mo, 29 Mai 2006 17:49 |
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Curly Sue wrote:
> On Sun, 28 May 2006 06:25:31 -0400, Roberta <roberta.nospam [at] gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Andy wrote:
>>> Right now at 2100?
>>>
>>> Andy
>> I wish I could :( I keep forgetting to call the cable company about the
>> fact that I get a blank screen on the history channel. I can only seem
>> to remember when there is something on I really want to watch
>>
>> Roberta (in VA)
>
> Have you tried rebooting the cable box? Sometimes when I get a blank
> on certain channels, rebooting does the trick. In any case, that will
> be their first suggestion when you call!
>
> Sue(tm)
> Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!
Yes, the last time we had a problem not getting a channel in the bedroom
they did something from there and it fixed it.
Roberta (in VA)
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #283157 ] |
Mo, 29 Mai 2006 18:16 |
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On Mon, 29 May 2006 11:47:50 -0400, Roberta wrote:
> No splitters - both TV's are connected right to the wall jack. Good
> cables, my husband has a thing about that. AND both televisions have the
> same thing so it's something going on with the cable itself *shrug
Pssst.... Roberta! Put a large PostIt reminder on the tv, your
refrigerator and your phone - one of them should remind you.
:)
--
Ham and eggs.
A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig.
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #283203 ] |
Mo, 29 Mai 2006 20:24 |
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In article <HIEeg.1866$f76.1699 [at] dukeread06>, roberta.nospam [at] gmail.com
says...
> Reg wrote:
> > Roberta wrote:
> >
> >> Andy wrote:
> >>
> >>> Right now at 2100?
> >>>
> >>> Andy
> >>
> >>
> >> I wish I could :( I keep forgetting to call the cable company about
> >> the fact that I get a blank screen on the history channel. I can only
> >> seem to remember when there is something on I really want to watch
> >>
> >> Roberta (in VA)
> >
> > First, check all the cables. Make sure they're on tight. Next, swap
> > them out with known good ones.
> >
> > It could also be a problem with signal strength. Using cheap,
> > poorly made splitters can degrade the signal to the point where
> > channels start dropping out. I've seen it happen.
> >
>
> No splitters - both TV's are connected right to the wall jack. Good
> cables, my husband has a thing about that. AND both televisions have the
> same thing so it's something going on with the cable itself *shrug* I
> really have to remember to call them about it
>
The splitter might be in the distribution box. Early on cable companies
used cheap splitters because they weren't so concernded about digital
signal. Now they are.
Here's what you do - pay the $2 or $3 and get the inside wire
maintenance plan from your cable provider. Got them to re-wire dead
phone jacks that weren't even theirs. They goofed when they said "All
wire..."
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #283365 ] |
Di, 30 Mai 2006 03:31 |
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T wrote:
> In article <Xns97D1B409064A4cotd [at] 216.196.97.136>, Andy <q> says...
> > My Mom took a pharmachology class and told me she finally believes
> > marijuana is safer than alcohol. I asked her to bake me some cookies! ;)
>
> The only reason we won't see it legalized is because the alcohol lobby
> has congress firmly in pocket.
That's a little of it, but it's far stupider than that.
Most of America thinks grass is bad, though they sympathize with people
who could use it as a prescription drug for pain.
So the politics are such that lawmakers use it as a wedge issue.
Meanwhile they threaten their booze-company contributors that if they
don't keep up the fight against marijuana, it could become legalized.
They aren't doing it in contravention of true public opinion in order
to get alcohol money, they're doing it in deference to ignorant public
opinion and using it to extort alcohol money.
--Blair
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel? [message #283523 ] |
Di, 30 Mai 2006 19:54 |
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Dave Smith wrote:
> To give you an idea of the cost of legal vs. illegal drugs. I few years ago
> I was taking oxycontin, a heavy duty pain killer.
If you don't mind a personal question (my address above is good if you
don't feel like talking about it on the group), what was the prescribed
pain killer for? I'm in a situation where I've asked my doctor for
something (not necessarily oxycontin) to help with debilitating pain,
but she's decided that I'm not in enough pain for her to prescribe it.
I'm wondering what sort of words or histrionics get through to doctors.
(I further wonder how she knows what I'm feeling.)
--Lia
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel? [message #283552 ] |
Di, 30 Mai 2006 21:45 |
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>
> If you don't mind a personal question (my address above is good if you
> don't feel like talking about it on the group), what was the prescribed
> pain killer for? I'm in a situation where I've asked my doctor for
> something (not necessarily oxycontin) to help with debilitating pain,
> but she's decided that I'm not in enough pain for her to prescribe it.
> I'm wondering what sort of words or histrionics get through to doctors.
> (I further wonder how she knows what I'm feeling.)
>
>
> --Lia
I'd find another doctor. It is recently and universally acknowledged
that pain is one of the major obstacles to healing, and that most
physicians are not trained to administer pain drugs properly and in
sufficient amounts. You are the only one who knows what your pain
feels like - if your doctor doesn't believe you, find another one.
N.
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel? [message #283572 ] |
Di, 30 Mai 2006 22:22 |
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"Nancy2" <nancy-dooley [at] uiowa.edu> wrote in message
news:1149018353.388666.18310 [at] j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>>
>> If you don't mind a personal question (my address above is good if you
>> don't feel like talking about it on the group), what was the prescribed
>> pain killer for? I'm in a situation where I've asked my doctor for
>> something (not necessarily oxycontin) to help with debilitating pain,
>> but she's decided that I'm not in enough pain for her to prescribe it.
>> I'm wondering what sort of words or histrionics get through to doctors.
>> (I further wonder how she knows what I'm feeling.)
>>
>>
>> --Lia
>
> I'd find another doctor. It is recently and universally acknowledged
> that pain is one of the major obstacles to healing, and that most
> physicians are not trained to administer pain drugs properly and in
> sufficient amounts. You are the only one who knows what your pain
> feels like - if your doctor doesn't believe you, find another one.
>
> N.
I'll agree - find another doctor. It's not easy to find one, but be
persistent. Tomorrow I have an appointment with a new doctor and here is
the kind of appointment I got. Ready?
A "get to know your doctor" appointment. It's about time they have caught
onto this.
The last new doctor I saw wouldn't see me until I gathered all my records
from the previous doctor. He walked in the room and said that he hadn't
looked at my previous records and asked me what he could do for me. So, I
think this "get to know your doctor" is a good way to approach getting a new
appointment.
Good luck,
and good luck to me tomorrow -- I'm a-scared!
Dee Dee
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel? [message #283578 ] |
Di, 30 Mai 2006 22:29 |
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Nancy2 wrote:
> I'd find another doctor. It is recently and universally acknowledged
> that pain is one of the major obstacles to healing, and that most
> physicians are not trained to administer pain drugs properly and in
> sufficient amounts. You are the only one who knows what your pain
> feels like - if your doctor doesn't believe you, find another one.
I'm in the process of doing exactly that, but it is harder than it
sounds. I'm in a state with heavily regulated insurance so that even if
you're willing to pay cash, it is hard to find a doctor as so many of
them have left. It isn't unusual to find that the recommended doctor
isn't taking new patients or that it takes months for a new patient to
get an appointment. A doctor might be good, but the office staff might
be horrible such that appointments are routinely canceled or running
hours late. Further, doctors are regulated and watched when it comes to
how much pain medication they prescribe. Even if their patients AREN'T
becoming dangerously addicted, and if the prescribed medicines AREN'T
making their way to be sold on the street, doctors can get rebuked by
the state for prescribing too much. My last doctor was good in some ways
but horrible in others. I've resigned myself to knowing that I'm not
likely to find one doctor who is good in all areas. Meanwhile, I was
wondering if there might be buzz words that would get pain medicine
prescibed and that I might not be using the right ones.
--Lia
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #283582 ] |
Di, 30 Mai 2006 22:37 |
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Dave Smith wrote:
>
> It's a damned shame. By criminalizing marijuana they put it in the same
> class as heavier, more dangerous and addicting drugs so it is easier for
> kids to step over the line. If they had access to pot they probably
> wouldn't bother with the others.
If it was legal it would also probably be cheaper. I was appalled when
I found out how much dope costs now.
> Criminalization also makes drug
> trafficking lucrative. If some of the heavier drugs were legalized the
> biggest losers would be the drug cartels.
>
> To give you an idea of the cost of legal vs. illegal drugs. I few years ago
> I was taking oxycontin, a heavy duty pain killer. A prescription for 30
> pills was about $14.00. The same pills sell on the street for $20 each.
We have a lot to learn from the Netherlands - in many ways.
-L.
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel? [message #283587 ] |
Di, 30 Mai 2006 22:45 |
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Dee Randall wrote:
> I'll agree - find another doctor. It's not easy to find one, but be
> persistent. Tomorrow I have an appointment with a new doctor and here is
> the kind of appointment I got. Ready?
> A "get to know your doctor" appointment. It's about time they have caught
> onto this.
How much do you pay for the "get to know you" visit?
> The last new doctor I saw wouldn't see me until I gathered all my records
> from the previous doctor. He walked in the room and said that he hadn't
> looked at my previous records and asked me what he could do for me.
I'd be thrilled if a doctor I'd been seeing for years spent a few
minutes looking at her own notes filed in her own office. My last
doctor didn't do that. I've learned that it is a good idea to type up a
short paper with all my questions, concerns and pertinent information
(including info on meds I'm allegic to) on it so I have it handy and
don't forget anything. The doctor saw that I had a paper,
enthusiastically asked if she could keep it, and, on getting an
affirmative, put it away without looking at it. Since I hadn't thought
to bring 2 copies, I had nothing to make sure I got my questions
answered. I doubt it would have made a difference. Even after I'd
reminded her verbally that I was allergic to the med she'd just
recommended, she said that she didn't think I was allergic to it. I got
shuttled out the door in no time anyhow.
--Lia
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #283593 ] |
Di, 30 Mai 2006 22:52 |
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"-L." <gentleboa [at] peacemail.com> wrote in
news:1149021463.124032.265880 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com:
>
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> It's a damned shame. By criminalizing marijuana they put it in the
>> same class as heavier, more dangerous and addicting drugs so it is
>> easier for kids to step over the line. If they had access to pot
>> they probably wouldn't bother with the others.
>
> If it was legal it would also probably be cheaper. I was appalled
> when I found out how much dope costs now.
>
>> Criminalization also makes drug
>> trafficking lucrative. If some of the heavier drugs were legalized
>> the biggest losers would be the drug cartels.
>>
>> To give you an idea of the cost of legal vs. illegal drugs. I few
>> years ago I was taking oxycontin, a heavy duty pain killer. A
>> prescription for 30 pills was about $14.00. The same pills sell on
>> the street for $20 each.
>
> We have a lot to learn from the Netherlands - in many ways.
>
> -L.
And Australia. Folks can grow for their own purposes up to a certain gram
amount (100 grams?). No drug dealers on the corners. No black market
profit. No drugwars.
Again. Australia is too civilized!
Andy
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel? [message #283595 ] |
Di, 30 Mai 2006 22:43 |
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Julia Altshuler wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > To give you an idea of the cost of legal vs. illegal drugs. I few years ago
> > I was taking oxycontin, a heavy duty pain killer.
>
> If you don't mind a personal question (my address above is good if you
> don't feel like talking about it on the group), what was the prescribed
> pain killer for?
It was for pain :-)
I hd a little horseback mishap. The horse made a sudden stop at a rail he was
supposed to jump and I went over it without her. I was described as a lawn dart.
I broke my collar bone, and injury I do not want to recur.
> I'm in a situation where I've asked my doctor for
> something (not necessarily oxycontin) to help with debilitating pain,
> but she's decided that I'm not in enough pain for her to prescribe it.
> I'm wondering what sort of words or histrionics get through to doctors.
I was in a lot of pain. I discovered that just about everything the human body
does involves at least a little pressure on the collar bone, and that includes
getting out of bed in the morning. I had a few incidents where I made sudden
movements with the afflicted arm and saw stars and almost blacked out.
They were very cheap with the oxycotin. They had given me two Percocets in the
ER and that made things a lot more tolerable. The ER doc gave me a prescription
for 20 Oxycotin to be taken 1 or 2 every 4-6 hours as required. The pharmacist
was amazed at the prescription and gave me a stern warning about the stuff. He
advised me not to take more than one at a time and to wait an hour and take a
second one only if still in pain. I had to see my family doctor to get more and
he gave me a scrip for 30. I went back for more. He quizzed me about how many I
was taking and because I still had some left he said I was not abusing it and
gave me a scrip for 60 more.
Even then I didn't have enough to get me through the day. I took them at night
because there was no way I could sleep without it. Then I would wake up about 4
hours later from pain after moving in my sleep, so I would take another one to
get me through to the morning. Occasionally I had to take one during the day.
I have to confess to having developed a bit of a dependency on them. After the
shoulder was healed I had trouble sleeping and took to popping one to help me
sleep. When I ran out I started using up old Tylenol 3 and my mother had lots of
those for me. When I realized what was happening I stopped. I had a lot of
sleepless nights but I had to stay away from those things.
> (I further wonder how she knows what I'm feeling.)
They have their little tests. :-)
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel? [message #283596 ] |
Di, 30 Mai 2006 23:05 |
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Dave Smith wrote:
> It was for pain :-)
> I hd a little horseback mishap. The horse made a sudden stop at a rail he was
> supposed to jump and I went over it without her. I was described as a lawn dart.
> I broke my collar bone, and injury I do not want to recur.
Thanks for that description. I don't have anything close to the same
injury, but I do have an idea of what I might say to a doctor.
--Lia
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel? [message #283600 ] |
Di, 30 Mai 2006 23:15 |
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"Dee Randall" <deedovey [at] shentel.net> wrote
> Good luck,
> and good luck to me tomorrow -- I'm a-scared!
I don't know what I missed; whatever it is, Good Luck!
nancy
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel? [message #283610 ] |
Di, 30 Mai 2006 23:33 |
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"Julia Altshuler" <jaltshuler [at] comcast.net> wrote in message
news:7eadnWgF1didMuHZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d [at] comcast.com...
> Dee Randall wrote:
>
>> I'll agree - find another doctor. It's not easy to find one, but be
>> persistent. Tomorrow I have an appointment with a new doctor and here is
>> the kind of appointment I got. Ready?
>> A "get to know your doctor" appointment. It's about time they have
>> caught onto this.
>
>
> How much do you pay for the "get to know you" visit?
>
>
>
>> The last new doctor I saw wouldn't see me until I gathered all my records
>> from the previous doctor. He walked in the room and said that he hadn't
>> looked at my previous records and asked me what he could do for me.
>
>
> I'd be thrilled if a doctor I'd been seeing for years spent a few minutes
> looking at her own notes filed in her own office. My last doctor didn't
> do that. I've learned that it is a good idea to type up a short paper
> with all my questions, concerns and pertinent information (including info
> on meds I'm allegic to) on it so I have it handy and don't forget
> anything. The doctor saw that I had a paper, enthusiastically asked if
> she could keep it, and, on getting an affirmative, put it away without
> looking at it. Since I hadn't thought to bring 2 copies, I had nothing to
> make sure I got my questions answered. I doubt it would have made a
> difference. Even after I'd reminded her verbally that I was allergic to
> the med she'd just recommended, she said that she didn't think I was
> allergic to it. I got shuttled out the door in no time anyhow.
>
>
> --Lia
All sounds sooo familiar. I keep my questions written up, too. I have two
copies, one for Doctor Who and one for me. When I come home, I always write
their responses. Over the years when it mounts up, you starting saying, I
think I need a new doctor; then you say, I do need another doctor, then you
say, I'm desperate to find another doctor.
I was concerned like you about the cost of a "get to know you" appointment,
as the appointment maker is the one who suggested it; but I think it will be
covered by my insurance, as I called them and they said yes. I'll let you
know if this isn't the case.
I've not had any problem with getting shuttled out the door so far. My
problem is not to get offered too many drugs, or the correct ones that won't
do me in, or to not withhold tests or meds have been recommended by my
yearly physical MD in Baltimore. They go squirrely when they have to deal
with the fact that I have doctor/health clinic that has kept track of me
since 1973.
Dee Dee
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel??? [message #283615 ] |
Di, 30 Mai 2006 23:59 |
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Andy sez:
> And Australia. Folks can grow for their own purposes up to a certain gram
> amount (100 grams?). No drug dealers on the corners. No black market
> profit. No drugwars.
>
> Again. Australia is too civilized!
>
> Andy
>
Would that we were as enlightened, or rather, that our politicians
were! Doubtful in my lifetime, I'm afraid. It's a damn shame.
Bongs, not bombs!!!
Spitz
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Mind the runner beans!
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel? [message #283625 ] |
Mi, 31 Mai 2006 00:08 |
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In article <Wcydndsjy5lSG-HZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d [at] comcast.com>,
jaltshuler [at] comcast.net says...
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > To give you an idea of the cost of legal vs. illegal drugs. I few years ago
> > I was taking oxycontin, a heavy duty pain killer.
>
>
> If you don't mind a personal question (my address above is good if you
> don't feel like talking about it on the group), what was the prescribed
> pain killer for? I'm in a situation where I've asked my doctor for
> something (not necessarily oxycontin) to help with debilitating pain,
> but she's decided that I'm not in enough pain for her to prescribe it.
> I'm wondering what sort of words or histrionics get through to doctors.
> (I further wonder how she knows what I'm feeling.)
>
>
> --Lia
Grab her nipples between your index finger and thumb and twist. Tell her
that's how pain feels and to give you the prescription for the drugs.
Also explain that your complaining to the Department of Health might get
her in some trouble, if not extreme hassle.
I've found you have to treat doctors like idiots when it comes to pain
management.
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| Re: Is anybody watching the History channel? [message #283626 ] |
Mi, 31 Mai 2006 00:10 |
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In article <W4Odna5x567aNuHZ4p2dnA [at] comcast.com>, jaltshuler [at] comcast.net
says...
> Nancy2 wrote:
>
> > I'd find another doctor. It is recently and universally acknowledged
> > that pain is one of the major obstacles to healing, and that most
> > physicians are not trained to administer pain drugs properly and in
> > sufficient amounts. You are the only one who knows what your pain
> > feels like - if your doctor doesn't believe you, find another one.
>
>
> I'm in the process of doing exactly that, but it is harder than it
> sounds. I'm in a state with heavily regulated insurance so that even if
> you're willing to pay cash, it is hard to find a doctor as so many of
> them have left. It isn't unusual to find that the recommended doctor
> isn't taking new patients or that it takes months for a new patient to
> get an appointment. A doctor might be good, but the office staff might
> be horrible such that appointments are routinely canceled or running
> hours late. Further, doctors are regulated and watched when it comes to
> how much pain medication they prescribe. Even if their patients AREN'T
> becoming dangerously addicted, and if the prescribed medicines AREN'T
> making their way to be sold on the street, doctors can get rebuked by
> the state for prescribing too much. My last doctor was good in some ways
> but horrible in others. I've resigned myself to knowing that I'm not
> likely to find one doctor who is good in all areas. Meanwhile, I was
> wondering if there might be buzz words that would get pain medicine
> prescibed and that I might not be using the right ones.
The one ace I have is knowing the prosecutors who would go after doctors
for dispensing too many painkillers. Working with them for a couple of
years gives you new perspective on how to avoid legalistic bullshit.
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