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Re: why we should all turn vegetarian [message #284819] Wed, 12 July 2006 12:56
Arthur Brain  
dd wrote:
> The right to life is possible only in a certain, different atmosphere that

There is no such right.

> is not present on the earth at the moment. Animals are killed, birds are
> killed, sea animals are killed, just for game. You don't have any reverence

So? Whereever there is life, there must also - inevitably - be death.

There is no reason why we shouldn't kill plants or animals if it suits
us.

> for life. And life is the same whether it is in human beings or in other
> forms. Unless man becomes aware of his violence towards animals, birds, he
> cannot be really alert about his own right to life. If you are not caring

There is no such right.

> about others' lives, what right have you got to demand the same right for
> yourself?

Human rights only apply to animals in Cloud Cuckoo Land.

Do *you* live in Cloud Cuckoo Land?

> But the whole of humanity is non-vegetarian; they are all eating other life
> forms. There is no reverence for life as such. Unless we create an
> atmosphere of reverence for life, man cannot realize the goal of getting his
> fundamental right of life.

So what are you gong to eat, if you can't eat "other life forms"?

sand?

Verbal diarrhea?
Re: why we should all turn vegetarian [message #284820 ] Thu, 13 July 2006 17:18
quidam  
to each their own.


that's as bad as vegans forcing their pets to eat a vegan diet.



Arthur Brain wrote:
> dd wrote:
> > The right to life is possible only in a certain, different atmosphere that
>
> There is no such right.
>
> > is not present on the earth at the moment. Animals are killed, birds are
> > killed, sea animals are killed, just for game. You don't have any reverence
>
> So? Whereever there is life, there must also - inevitably - be death.
>
> There is no reason why we shouldn't kill plants or animals if it suits
> us.
>
> > for life. And life is the same whether it is in human beings or in other
> > forms. Unless man becomes aware of his violence towards animals, birds, he
> > cannot be really alert about his own right to life. If you are not caring
>
> There is no such right.
>
> > about others' lives, what right have you got to demand the same right for
> > yourself?
>
> Human rights only apply to animals in Cloud Cuckoo Land.
>
> Do *you* live in Cloud Cuckoo Land?
>
> > But the whole of humanity is non-vegetarian; they are all eating other life
> > forms. There is no reverence for life as such. Unless we create an
> > atmosphere of reverence for life, man cannot realize the goal of getting his
> > fundamental right of life.
>
> So what are you gong to eat, if you can't eat "other life forms"?
>
> sand?
>
> Verbal diarrhea?
Re: why we should all turn vegetarian [message #284821 ] Fri, 14 July 2006 03:30
nemo  
"quidam" <quidam_the_barbarian [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1152803918.912897.100560 [at] p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> to each their own.
>
>
> that's as bad as vegans forcing their pets to eat a vegan diet.

Hahaha! "Pinky!! Perky!! Cucumber!!"

How some Vegan friends of mine used to call their cats in. The cats thrived
and were perfectly happy on a Vegan diet!

So blood devastation death cruelty and horror are perfectly OK in out
farming industry to feed carnivores, but a Vegan dares to feed his/her pets
a Vegan diet then that's a heinous crime a thousant times worse?? B*llocks!

Bullies use that kind of argument. They do the most terrible things while
reacting with huge outrage and posing as teh injured party should they be
criticised.

>
> Arthur Brain wrote:
> > dd wrote:
> > > The right to life is possible only in a certain, different atmosphere
that
> >
> > There is no such right.

There de facto is.

> >
> > > is not present on the earth at the moment. Animals are killed, birds
are
> > > killed, sea animals are killed, just for game. You don't have any
reverence
> >
> > So? Whereever there is life, there must also - inevitably - be death.
> >
> > There is no reason why we shouldn't kill plants or animals if it suits
> > us.

There are dozens including important economic ones.

Beef: A hundredweight or two an acre.
Soya: A few tons as acre.
Honey Locust bean: Tens of tons an acre.

> >
> > > for life. And life is the same whether it is in human beings or in
other
> > > forms. Unless man becomes aware of his violence towards animals,
birds, he
> > > cannot be really alert about his own right to life. If you are not
caring
> >
> > There is no such right.
> >
> > > about others' lives, what right have you got to demand the same right
for
> > > yourself?
> >
> > Human rights only apply to animals in Cloud Cuckoo Land.
> >
> > Do *you* live in Cloud Cuckoo Land?
> >
> > > But the whole of humanity is non-vegetarian; they are all eating other
life
> > > forms. There is no reverence for life as such. Unless we create an
> > > atmosphere of reverence for life, man cannot realize the goal of
getting his
> > > fundamental right of life.
> >
> > So what are you gong to eat, if you can't eat "other life forms"?
> >
> > sand?
> >
> > Verbal diarrhea?

Diarrhoea! Through-discharge, from Greek - especially if their cooking
doesn't aggree with your stomach! :o)

(The oe should be a diphthong BTW but OE can't manage that. It sends an e
instead. Does an æ OK though.)
Re: why we should all turn vegetarian [message #284829 ] Fri, 14 July 2006 21:08
harmony  
most vets advise feeding meaty "science diet" to the pets.
i don't get it though.

"nemo" <nemo [at] naughtylass.wet> wrote in message
news:ntCtg.313447$8W1.112259 [at] fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> "quidam" <quidam_the_barbarian [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1152803918.912897.100560 [at] p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
>> to each their own.
>>
>>
>> that's as bad as vegans forcing their pets to eat a vegan diet.
>
> Hahaha! "Pinky!! Perky!! Cucumber!!"
>
> How some Vegan friends of mine used to call their cats in. The cats
> thrived
> and were perfectly happy on a Vegan diet!
>
> So blood devastation death cruelty and horror are perfectly OK in out
> farming industry to feed carnivores, but a Vegan dares to feed his/her
> pets
> a Vegan diet then that's a heinous crime a thousant times worse??
> B*llocks!
>
> Bullies use that kind of argument. They do the most terrible things while
> reacting with huge outrage and posing as teh injured party should they be
> criticised.
>
>>
>> Arthur Brain wrote:
>> > dd wrote:
>> > > The right to life is possible only in a certain, different atmosphere
> that
>> >
>> > There is no such right.
>
> There de facto is.
>
>> >
>> > > is not present on the earth at the moment. Animals are killed, birds
> are
>> > > killed, sea animals are killed, just for game. You don't have any
> reverence
>> >
>> > So? Whereever there is life, there must also - inevitably - be death.
>> >
>> > There is no reason why we shouldn't kill plants or animals if it suits
>> > us.
>
> There are dozens including important economic ones.
>
> Beef: A hundredweight or two an acre.
> Soya: A few tons as acre.
> Honey Locust bean: Tens of tons an acre.
>
>> >
>> > > for life. And life is the same whether it is in human beings or in
> other
>> > > forms. Unless man becomes aware of his violence towards animals,
> birds, he
>> > > cannot be really alert about his own right to life. If you are not
> caring
>> >
>> > There is no such right.
>> >
>> > > about others' lives, what right have you got to demand the same right
> for
>> > > yourself?
>> >
>> > Human rights only apply to animals in Cloud Cuckoo Land.
>> >
>> > Do *you* live in Cloud Cuckoo Land?
>> >
>> > > But the whole of humanity is non-vegetarian; they are all eating
>> > > other
> life
>> > > forms. There is no reverence for life as such. Unless we create an
>> > > atmosphere of reverence for life, man cannot realize the goal of
> getting his
>> > > fundamental right of life.
>> >
>> > So what are you gong to eat, if you can't eat "other life forms"?
>> >
>> > sand?
>> >
>> > Verbal diarrhea?
>
> Diarrhoea! Through-discharge, from Greek - especially if their cooking
> doesn't aggree with your stomach! :o)
>
> (The oe should be a diphthong BTW but OE can't manage that. It sends an e
> instead. Does an æ OK though.)
>
>
Re: why we should all turn vegetarian [message #284833 ] Fri, 14 July 2006 23:17
Arthur Brain  
nemo wrote:
> "quidam" <quidam_the_barbarian [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1152803918.912897.100560 [at] p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> > to each their own.

> How some Vegan friends of mine used to call their cats in. The cats thrived
> and were perfectly happy on a Vegan diet!

Really? Did you use a mind-meld to ascertain this?
No, of curse not - this is cloud-cuckoo-land fantasy, obviously.

I bet those cats used to plot the thousands of different ways they
could kill their cruel owner who fed them nothing but nasty meat-free
gruel every day.

> So blood devastation death cruelty and horror are perfectly OK in out

No, cruelty and horror are not OK, but we aren't talking about cruelty
and horror - we are talking about eating yummy animal flesh.

> farming industry to feed carnivores, but a Vegan dares to feed his/her pets
> a Vegan diet then that's a heinous crime a thousant times worse?? B*llocks!

That's cruel, torturing a poor animal twice a day for its entire life
by giving it an unnatural diet that the animal's is not designed for.

> Bullies use that kind of argument. They do the most terrible things while
> reacting with huge outrage and posing as teh injured party should they be
> criticised.

But you are doing terrible things with your fundamentalist approach to
nutrition.

> > > > The right to life is possible only in a certain, different

> > > There is no such right.

> There de facto is.

What? There *is* no such right. Do you even understand latin?
I can swat a mosquito, shoot a rabbit or catch a fish and eat it any
time I like.
None of these creatures has any "right" to be alive.

> Beef: A hundredweight or two an acre.
> Soya: A few tons as acre.
> Honey Locust bean: Tens of tons an acre.

Well, you can eat 10 KGs of whatever-the-fuck "Honey Locust beans" are,
and I will be content with 100g of nice beef.

As part of a balanced, and varied diet, my beef will allow me to grow
strong, while you vegans grow stunted, pale and pasty with poor
eyesight and thin brittle bones.
Re: why we should all turn vegetarian [message #284842 ] Sun, 16 July 2006 05:49
quidam  
kookoogaaajooob.





nemo wrote:
> "quidam" <quidam_the_barbarian [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1152803918.912897.100560 [at] p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> > to each their own.
> >
> >
> > that's as bad as vegans forcing their pets to eat a vegan diet.
>
> Hahaha! "Pinky!! Perky!! Cucumber!!"
>
> How some Vegan friends of mine used to call their cats in. The cats thriv=
ed
> and were perfectly happy on a Vegan diet!
>
> So blood devastation death cruelty and horror are perfectly OK in out
> farming industry to feed carnivores, but a Vegan dares to feed his/her pe=
ts
> a Vegan diet then that's a heinous crime a thousant times worse?? B*llock=
s!
>
> Bullies use that kind of argument. They do the most terrible things while
> reacting with huge outrage and posing as teh injured party should they be
> criticised.
>
> >
> > Arthur Brain wrote:
> > > dd wrote:
> > > > The right to life is possible only in a certain, different atmosphe=
re
> that
> > >
> > > There is no such right.
>
> There de facto is.
>
> > >
> > > > is not present on the earth at the moment. Animals are killed, birds
> are
> > > > killed, sea animals are killed, just for game. You don't have any
> reverence
> > >
> > > So? Whereever there is life, there must also - inevitably - be death.
> > >
> > > There is no reason why we shouldn't kill plants or animals if it suits
> > > us.
>
> There are dozens including important economic ones.
>
> Beef: A hundredweight or two an acre.
> Soya: A few tons as acre.
> Honey Locust bean: Tens of tons an acre.
>
> > >
> > > > for life. And life is the same whether it is in human beings or in
> other
> > > > forms. Unless man becomes aware of his violence towards animals,
> birds, he
> > > > cannot be really alert about his own right to life. If you are not
> caring
> > >
> > > There is no such right.
> > >
> > > > about others' lives, what right have you got to demand the same rig=
ht
> for
> > > > yourself?
> > >
> > > Human rights only apply to animals in Cloud Cuckoo Land.
> > >
> > > Do *you* live in Cloud Cuckoo Land?
> > >
> > > > But the whole of humanity is non-vegetarian; they are all eating ot=
her
> life
> > > > forms. There is no reverence for life as such. Unless we create an
> > > > atmosphere of reverence for life, man cannot realize the goal of
> getting his
> > > > fundamental right of life.
> > >
> > > So what are you gong to eat, if you can't eat "other life forms"?
> > >
> > > sand?
> > >
> > > Verbal diarrhea?
>
> Diarrhoea! Through-discharge, from Greek - especially if their cooking
> doesn't aggree with your stomach! :o)
>
> (The oe should be a diphthong BTW but OE can't manage that. It sends an e
> instead. Does an =E6 OK though.)
Re: why we should all turn vegetarian [message #284843 ] Sun, 16 July 2006 05:50
quidam  
lmfao another one..


kookoookoookoooo!

bonk bonk on the head..


Arthur Brain wrote:
> nemo wrote:
> > "quidam" <quidam_the_barbarian [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1152803918.912897.100560 [at] p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> > > to each their own.
>
> > How some Vegan friends of mine used to call their cats in. The cats thrived
> > and were perfectly happy on a Vegan diet!
>
> Really? Did you use a mind-meld to ascertain this?
> No, of curse not - this is cloud-cuckoo-land fantasy, obviously.
>
> I bet those cats used to plot the thousands of different ways they
> could kill their cruel owner who fed them nothing but nasty meat-free
> gruel every day.
>
> > So blood devastation death cruelty and horror are perfectly OK in out
>
> No, cruelty and horror are not OK, but we aren't talking about cruelty
> and horror - we are talking about eating yummy animal flesh.
>
> > farming industry to feed carnivores, but a Vegan dares to feed his/her pets
> > a Vegan diet then that's a heinous crime a thousant times worse?? B*llocks!
>
> That's cruel, torturing a poor animal twice a day for its entire life
> by giving it an unnatural diet that the animal's is not designed for.
>
> > Bullies use that kind of argument. They do the most terrible things while
> > reacting with huge outrage and posing as teh injured party should they be
> > criticised.
>
> But you are doing terrible things with your fundamentalist approach to
> nutrition.
>
> > > > > The right to life is possible only in a certain, different
>
> > > > There is no such right.
>
> > There de facto is.
>
> What? There *is* no such right. Do you even understand latin?
> I can swat a mosquito, shoot a rabbit or catch a fish and eat it any
> time I like.
> None of these creatures has any "right" to be alive.
>
> > Beef: A hundredweight or two an acre.
> > Soya: A few tons as acre.
> > Honey Locust bean: Tens of tons an acre.
>
> Well, you can eat 10 KGs of whatever-the-fuck "Honey Locust beans" are,
> and I will be content with 100g of nice beef.
>
> As part of a balanced, and varied diet, my beef will allow me to grow
> strong, while you vegans grow stunted, pale and pasty with poor
> eyesight and thin brittle bones.
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