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#1: Re: I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve Recipe

Posted on 2006-07-11 22:44:46 by barbs.challer

In article &lt;<a href="mailto:Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19" target="_blank">Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19</a>&gt;,
Wayne Boatwright &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt; Well, I would rather not fail, how do they make those all fruit spreads
&gt; &gt; and jellies you see in grocery stores?
&gt; &gt;
&gt;
&gt; With chemicals.


Not really. The ingredients list isn't usually more than fruit,
sweetener, pectin, and citric acid. The cheaper spreads are made with
corn syrup or high fructose or fructose rather than plain ol' granulated
sugar.
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-Barb
&lt;<a href="http://jamlady.eboard.com" target="_blank">http://jamlady.eboard.com</a>&gt; Updated 7-5-06, Pannekoeken
&quot;If it's not worth doing to excess, it's not worth doing at all.&quot;

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#2: Re: I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve Recipe

Posted on 2006-07-12 03:51:19 by Wayne Boatwright

Oh pshaw, on Tue 11 Jul 2006 01:44:46p, Melba's Jammin' meant to say...

&gt; In article &lt;<a href="mailto:Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19" target="_blank">Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19</a>&gt;,
&gt; Wayne Boatwright &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt; &gt; Well, I would rather not fail, how do they make those all fruit spreads
&gt;&gt; &gt; and jellies you see in grocery stores?
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; With chemicals.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Not really. The ingredients list isn't usually more than fruit,
&gt; sweetener, pectin, and citric acid. The cheaper spreads are made with
&gt; corn syrup or high fructose or fructose rather than plain ol' granulated
&gt; sugar.

Yes, you're right. But I was thinking that the OP wanted to find a way to do
this without nutritive sweeteners. Anything else to sweeten it would be
something synthetic unless it's just highly concentrated fruit juice.

--
Wayne Boatwright
__________________________________________________

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#3: Re: I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve Recipe

Posted on 2006-07-12 14:42:53 by barbs.challer

In article &lt;<a href="mailto:Xns97FDBF2A82E6wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19" target="_blank">Xns97FDBF2A82E6wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19</a>&gt;,
Wayne Boatwright &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; wrote:

&gt; Oh pshaw, on Tue 11 Jul 2006 01:44:46p, Melba's Jammin' meant to say...
&gt;
&gt; &gt; In article &lt;<a href="mailto:Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19" target="_blank">Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19</a>&gt;,
&gt; &gt; Wayne Boatwright &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Well, I would rather not fail, how do they make those all fruit spreads
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; and jellies you see in grocery stores?
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; With chemicals.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Not really. The ingredients list isn't usually more than fruit,
&gt; &gt; sweetener, pectin, and citric acid. The cheaper spreads are made with
&gt; &gt; corn syrup or high fructose or fructose rather than plain ol' granulated
&gt; &gt; sugar.
&gt;
&gt; Yes, you're right. But I was thinking that the OP wanted to find a way to do
&gt; this without nutritive sweeteners. Anything else to sweeten it would be
&gt; something synthetic unless it's just highly concentrated fruit juice.


Ah. Are there any soft spreads on the shelves sweetened with stuff
like Splenda or other artificial sweetener? I'll have to have a looksee
next time I'm out - if I remember!! &lt;g&gt;
--
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#4: Re: I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve Recipe

Posted on 2006-07-12 15:51:58 by George Shirley

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
&gt; Oh pshaw, on Tue 11 Jul 2006 01:44:46p, Melba's Jammin' meant to say...
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;In article &lt;<a href="mailto:Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19" target="_blank">Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19</a>&gt;,
&gt;&gt; Wayne Boatwright &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Well, I would rather not fail, how do they make those all fruit spreads
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;and jellies you see in grocery stores?
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;With chemicals.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Not really. The ingredients list isn't usually more than fruit,
&gt;&gt;sweetener, pectin, and citric acid. The cheaper spreads are made with
&gt;&gt;corn syrup or high fructose or fructose rather than plain ol' granulated
&gt;&gt;sugar.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Yes, you're right. But I was thinking that the OP wanted to find a way to do
&gt; this without nutritive sweeteners. Anything else to sweeten it would be
&gt; something synthetic unless it's just highly concentrated fruit juice.
&gt;
When did cane or beet sugar become synthetic? I worked in a sugar mill
over in Texas once upon a time and never saw any chemicals added to the
end product.

George

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#5: Re: I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve Recipe

Posted on 2006-07-12 16:18:43 by Alan S

&quot;Wayne Boatwright&quot; &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; wrote in message
news:<a href="mailto:Xns97FDBF2A82E6wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19..." target="_blank">Xns97FDBF2A82E6wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19...</a>
&gt; Oh pshaw, on Tue 11 Jul 2006 01:44:46p, Melba's Jammin' meant to say...
&gt;
&gt;&gt; In article &lt;<a href="mailto:Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19" target="_blank">Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19</a>&gt;,
&gt;&gt; Wayne Boatwright &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Well, I would rather not fail, how do they make those all fruit
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; spreads
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; and jellies you see in grocery stores?
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; With chemicals.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Not really. The ingredients list isn't usually more than fruit,
&gt;&gt; sweetener, pectin, and citric acid. The cheaper spreads are made with
&gt;&gt; corn syrup or high fructose or fructose rather than plain ol' granulated
&gt;&gt; sugar.
&gt;
&gt; Yes, you're right. But I was thinking that the OP wanted to find a way to
&gt; do
&gt; this without nutritive sweeteners. Anything else to sweeten it would be
&gt; something synthetic unless it's just highly concentrated fruit juice.
&gt;
&gt; --
The original post was titled &quot;I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve Recipe&quot;
Wayne. Not, &quot;Please Ask Nature To Provide Me With Synthetically Sweetened
100% Fruit&quot; - that would be an unrealistic request.

&gt; Wayne Boatwright
&gt; __________________________________________________
&gt;
&gt; 'Confusion not only reigns, it pours'
&gt;

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#6: Re: I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve Recipe

Posted on 2006-07-12 21:08:55 by Brian Mailman

Alan S wrote:
&gt;&gt; --
&gt; The original post was titled &quot;I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve Recipe&quot;
&gt; Wayne. Not, &quot;Please Ask Nature To Provide Me With Synthetically Sweetened
&gt; 100% Fruit&quot; - that would be an unrealistic request.

The reason why you see so much sugar in jam/jelly recipes is between the
set of the product depends on the chemistry between the acid, sugar, and
pectin. Unless you're using a pectin specifically made for lower sugar
quantities, the thingums won't set if you simply use less sugar.

If you want more of a conserve (which is what I see when I read the word
&quot;preserve&quot;), mash some cherries and stew them down; while that's going
on take some cherry juice and reduce to a fruit 'honey' and add it to
the cherries when they're the consistency you wish. What I might do is
take a couple of whole cloves and stick 'em in the cherry mash, fish 'em
out later.

B/

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#7: Re: I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve Recipe

Posted on 2006-07-13 18:47:33 by Wayne Boatwright

Oh pshaw, on Wed 12 Jul 2006 05:42:53a, Melba's Jammin' meant to say...

&gt;
&gt; Ah. Are there any soft spreads on the shelves sweetened with stuff
&gt; like Splenda or other artificial sweetener? I'll have to have a looksee
&gt; next time I'm out - if I remember!! &lt;g&gt;

I bought some raspberry preserves made with Splenda, but I wouldn't buy it
again. The flavor was okay, but I didn't like the texture.

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#8: Re: I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve Recipe

Posted on 2006-07-13 18:48:27 by Wayne Boatwright

Oh pshaw, on Wed 12 Jul 2006 06:51:58a, George Shirley meant to say...

&gt; Wayne Boatwright wrote:
&gt;&gt; Oh pshaw, on Tue 11 Jul 2006 01:44:46p, Melba's Jammin' meant to say...
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;In article &lt;<a href="mailto:Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19" target="_blank">Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19</a>&gt;,
&gt;&gt;&gt; Wayne Boatwright &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Well, I would rather not fail, how do they make those all fruit
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;spreads and jellies you see in grocery stores?
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;With chemicals.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;Not really. The ingredients list isn't usually more than fruit,
&gt;&gt;&gt;sweetener, pectin, and citric acid. The cheaper spreads are made with
&gt;&gt;&gt;corn syrup or high fructose or fructose rather than plain ol'
&gt;&gt;&gt;granulated sugar.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Yes, you're right. But I was thinking that the OP wanted to find a way
&gt;&gt; to do this without nutritive sweeteners. Anything else to sweeten it
&gt;&gt; would be something synthetic unless it's just highly concentrated fruit
&gt;&gt; juice.
&gt;&gt;
&gt; When did cane or beet sugar become synthetic? I worked in a sugar mill
&gt; over in Texas once upon a time and never saw any chemicals added to the
&gt; end product.

I don't think anyone said that cane or beet sugar was synthentic or had
chemicals added.

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#9: Re: I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve Recipe

Posted on 2006-07-13 18:50:10 by Wayne Boatwright

Oh pshaw, on Wed 12 Jul 2006 07:18:43a, Alan S meant to say...

&gt;
&gt; &quot;Wayne Boatwright&quot; &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; wrote in message
&gt; news:<a href="mailto:Xns97FDBF2A82E6wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19..." target="_blank">Xns97FDBF2A82E6wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19...</a>
&gt;&gt; Oh pshaw, on Tue 11 Jul 2006 01:44:46p, Melba's Jammin' meant to say...
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; In article &lt;<a href="mailto:Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19" target="_blank">Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19</a>&gt;,
&gt;&gt;&gt; Wayne Boatwright &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Well, I would rather not fail, how do they make those all fruit
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; spreads and jellies you see in grocery stores?
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; With chemicals.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Not really. The ingredients list isn't usually more than fruit,
&gt;&gt;&gt; sweetener, pectin, and citric acid. The cheaper spreads are made with
&gt;&gt;&gt; corn syrup or high fructose or fructose rather than plain ol'
&gt;&gt;&gt; granulated sugar.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Yes, you're right. But I was thinking that the OP wanted to find a way
&gt;&gt; to do this without nutritive sweeteners. Anything else to sweeten it
&gt;&gt; would be something synthetic unless it's just highly concentrated fruit
&gt;&gt; juice.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; --
&gt; The original post was titled &quot;I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve
&gt; Recipe&quot; Wayne. Not, &quot;Please Ask Nature To Provide Me With Synthetically
&gt; Sweetened 100% Fruit&quot; - that would be an unrealistic request.

My interpretation was that the OP wanted 100% fruit with *nothing* else
added, natural or otherwise.

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#10: Re: I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve Recipe

Posted on 2006-07-14 18:54:18 by Alan S

&quot;Wayne Boatwright&quot; &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; wrote in message
news:<a href="mailto:Xns97FF6368E9077wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19..." target="_blank">Xns97FF6368E9077wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19...</a>
&gt; Oh pshaw, on Wed 12 Jul 2006 07:18:43a, Alan S meant to say...
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &quot;Wayne Boatwright&quot; &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; wrote in message
&gt;&gt; news:<a href="mailto:Xns97FDBF2A82E6wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19..." target="_blank">Xns97FDBF2A82E6wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19...</a>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Oh pshaw, on Tue 11 Jul 2006 01:44:46p, Melba's Jammin' meant to say...
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; In article &lt;<a href="mailto:Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19" target="_blank">Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19</a>&gt;,
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Wayne Boatwright &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Well, I would rather not fail, how do they make those all fruit
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; spreads and jellies you see in grocery stores?
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; With chemicals.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Not really. The ingredients list isn't usually more than fruit,
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; sweetener, pectin, and citric acid. The cheaper spreads are made with
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; corn syrup or high fructose or fructose rather than plain ol'
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; granulated sugar.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Yes, you're right. But I was thinking that the OP wanted to find a way
&gt;&gt;&gt; to do this without nutritive sweeteners. Anything else to sweeten it
&gt;&gt;&gt; would be something synthetic unless it's just highly concentrated fruit
&gt;&gt;&gt; juice.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; --
&gt;&gt; The original post was titled &quot;I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve
&gt;&gt; Recipe&quot; Wayne. Not, &quot;Please Ask Nature To Provide Me With Synthetically
&gt;&gt; Sweetened 100% Fruit&quot; - that would be an unrealistic request.
&gt;
&gt; My interpretation was that the OP wanted 100% fruit with *nothing* else
&gt; added, natural or otherwise.
&gt;
OK, so knowing that, your response to my query about all fruit spreads was -
&quot;With chemicals&quot; ? That doesn't make any sense Wayne. Or maybe I should not
assume that and I just don't get it. Please tell me, what 100% fruit spreads
are made with chemicals?, which chemicals?, and how does the product
manufacturer avoid scrutiny from the public for selling something that is
supposed to be 100% fruit that is actually chemicals?

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#11: Re: I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve Recipe

Posted on 2006-07-15 03:17:41 by zxcvbob

Alan S wrote:
&gt; &quot;Wayne Boatwright&quot; &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; wrote in message
&gt; news:<a href="mailto:Xns97FF6368E9077wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19..." target="_blank">Xns97FF6368E9077wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19...</a>
&gt;&gt; Oh pshaw, on Wed 12 Jul 2006 07:18:43a, Alan S meant to say...
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;Wayne Boatwright&quot; &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; wrote in message
&gt;&gt;&gt; news:<a href="mailto:Xns97FDBF2A82E6wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19..." target="_blank">Xns97FDBF2A82E6wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19...</a>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Oh pshaw, on Tue 11 Jul 2006 01:44:46p, Melba's Jammin' meant to say...
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; In article &lt;<a href="mailto:Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19" target="_blank">Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19</a>&gt;,
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Wayne Boatwright &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Well, I would rather not fail, how do they make those all fruit
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; spreads and jellies you see in grocery stores?
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; With chemicals.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Not really. The ingredients list isn't usually more than fruit,
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; sweetener, pectin, and citric acid. The cheaper spreads are made with
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; corn syrup or high fructose or fructose rather than plain ol'
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; granulated sugar.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Yes, you're right. But I was thinking that the OP wanted to find a way
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to do this without nutritive sweeteners. Anything else to sweeten it
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; would be something synthetic unless it's just highly concentrated fruit
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; juice.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; --
&gt;&gt;&gt; The original post was titled &quot;I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve
&gt;&gt;&gt; Recipe&quot; Wayne. Not, &quot;Please Ask Nature To Provide Me With Synthetically
&gt;&gt;&gt; Sweetened 100% Fruit&quot; - that would be an unrealistic request.
&gt;&gt; My interpretation was that the OP wanted 100% fruit with *nothing* else
&gt;&gt; added, natural or otherwise.
&gt;&gt;
&gt; OK, so knowing that, your response to my query about all fruit spreads was -
&gt; &quot;With chemicals&quot; ? That doesn't make any sense Wayne. Or maybe I should not
&gt; assume that and I just don't get it. Please tell me, what 100% fruit spreads
&gt; are made with chemicals?, which chemicals?, and how does the product
&gt; manufacturer avoid scrutiny from the public for selling something that is
&gt; supposed to be 100% fruit that is actually chemicals?
&gt;
&gt;


I thought it meant just cook down cherries and cherry juice until it
gets to a nice spreadable jam. (Maybe I took the &quot;100%&quot; too literally.)
Cherries won't do that. I don't think you could even get there with
just cherries and sugar without adding pectin.

I think you could get there with cherries, pectin, and frozen
concentrated apple or white-grape juice. It would be a guess and golly
type experiment rather than a recipe because you wouldn't know how much
sugar you had. (might be fun though)

Bob

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#12: Re: I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve Recipe

Posted on 2006-07-15 03:36:22 by Wayne Boatwright

Oh pshaw, on Fri 14 Jul 2006 09:54:18a, Alan S meant to say...

&gt;
&gt; &quot;Wayne Boatwright&quot; &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; wrote in message
&gt; news:<a href="mailto:Xns97FF6368E9077wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19..." target="_blank">Xns97FF6368E9077wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19...</a>
&gt;&gt; Oh pshaw, on Wed 12 Jul 2006 07:18:43a, Alan S meant to say...
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;Wayne Boatwright&quot; &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; wrote in message
&gt;&gt;&gt; news:<a href="mailto:Xns97FDBF2A82E6wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19..." target="_blank">Xns97FDBF2A82E6wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19...</a>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Oh pshaw, on Tue 11 Jul 2006 01:44:46p, Melba's Jammin' meant to
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; say...
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; In article &lt;<a href="mailto:Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19" target="_blank">Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19</a>&gt;,
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Wayne Boatwright &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Well, I would rather not fail, how do they make those all fruit
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; spreads and jellies you see in grocery stores?
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; With chemicals.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Not really. The ingredients list isn't usually more than fruit,
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; sweetener, pectin, and citric acid. The cheaper spreads are made
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; with corn syrup or high fructose or fructose rather than plain ol'
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; granulated sugar.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Yes, you're right. But I was thinking that the OP wanted to find a
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; way to do this without nutritive sweeteners. Anything else to
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; sweeten it would be something synthetic unless it's just highly
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; concentrated fruit juice.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; --
&gt;&gt;&gt; The original post was titled &quot;I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve
&gt;&gt;&gt; Recipe&quot; Wayne. Not, &quot;Please Ask Nature To Provide Me With
&gt;&gt;&gt; Synthetically Sweetened 100% Fruit&quot; - that would be an unrealistic
&gt;&gt;&gt; request.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; My interpretation was that the OP wanted 100% fruit with *nothing* else
&gt;&gt; added, natural or otherwise.
&gt;&gt;
&gt; OK, so knowing that, your response to my query about all fruit spreads
&gt; was - &quot;With chemicals&quot; ? That doesn't make any sense Wayne. Or maybe I
&gt; should not assume that and I just don't get it. Please tell me, what
&gt; 100% fruit spreads are made with chemicals?, which chemicals?, and how
&gt; does the product manufacturer avoid scrutiny from the public for selling
&gt; something that is supposed to be 100% fruit that is actually chemicals?

Okay, have it you way, but I think it would be rather difficult to produce
a 100% fruit cherry preserve without adding components to help thicken or
jell the product, not to mention if sugar (natural fruit) content is too
low, it will need some form of preservative. Your kitchen is not a
commercial factory. Even commercial products can contain added pectin,
acids to balance the PH, etc. That goes beyond the limited content you
were requesting. I also restate my interpretation...

&quot;My interpretation was that the OP wanted 100% fruit with *nothing* else
added, natural or otherwise.&quot; Again, it's unlikely you will successfully
produce such a product at home.

If you want to argue the point, please don't. I have nothing further to
say on the matter and absolutely nothing to prove.

Good luck!

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#13: Re: I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve Recipe

Posted on 2006-07-15 19:22:07 by Anny Middon

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&gt;
&gt;
&gt; I thought it meant just cook down cherries and cherry juice until it gets
&gt; to a nice spreadable jam. (Maybe I took the &quot;100%&quot; too literally.)
&gt; Cherries won't do that. I don't think you could even get there with just
&gt; cherries and sugar without adding pectin.
&gt;
&gt; I think you could get there with cherries, pectin, and frozen concentrated
&gt; apple or white-grape juice. It would be a guess and golly type experiment
&gt; rather than a recipe because you wouldn't know how much sugar you had.
&gt; (might be fun though)
&gt;
&gt; Bob

I posted recipes below from the new Ball Guide to Home Preserving book.
They didn't have one just with cherries, but did have a cherry-berry mix.

All the recipes used tart apples to provide the pectin and frozen
concentrated unsweetened juice (either apple or grape) for the sweetening.
They all cook a fairly long time to thicken.

I'm not sure I'll try any of the recipes, but it does seem to me the OP
could use one as a template and make a &quot;mostly cherry&quot; spreadable fruit. (I
say &quot;mostly cherry&quot; because of the apples used for pectin purposes.)

Anny

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#14: Re: I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve Recipe

Posted on 2006-07-16 22:42:25 by Jke

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&gt;
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&gt;&gt; Oh pshaw, on Wed 12 Jul 2006 07:18:43a, Alan S meant to say...
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;Wayne Boatwright&quot; &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; wrote in message
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Oh pshaw, on Tue 11 Jul 2006 01:44:46p, Melba's Jammin' meant to say...
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; In article &lt;<a href="mailto:Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19" target="_blank">Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19</a>&gt;,
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Wayne Boatwright &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Well, I would rather not fail, how do they make those all fruit
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; spreads and jellies you see in grocery stores?
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; With chemicals.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Not really. The ingredients list isn't usually more than fruit,
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; sweetener, pectin, and citric acid. The cheaper spreads are made with
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; corn syrup or high fructose or fructose rather than plain ol'
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; granulated sugar.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Yes, you're right. But I was thinking that the OP wanted to find a way
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to do this without nutritive sweeteners. Anything else to sweeten it
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; would be something synthetic unless it's just highly concentrated fruit
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; juice.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; --
&gt;&gt;&gt; The original post was titled &quot;I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve
&gt;&gt;&gt; Recipe&quot; Wayne. Not, &quot;Please Ask Nature To Provide Me With Synthetically
&gt;&gt;&gt; Sweetened 100% Fruit&quot; - that would be an unrealistic request.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; My interpretation was that the OP wanted 100% fruit with *nothing* else
&gt;&gt; added, natural or otherwise.
&gt;&gt;
&gt; OK, so knowing that, your response to my query about all fruit spreads
&gt; was - &quot;With chemicals&quot; ? That doesn't make any sense Wayne. Or maybe I
&gt; should not assume that and I just don't get it. Please tell me, what 100%
&gt; fruit spreads are made with chemicals?, which chemicals?, and how does the
&gt; product manufacturer avoid scrutiny from the public for selling something
&gt; that is supposed to be 100% fruit that is actually chemicals?
&gt;
I should probably stay out iof this, but I'll say one thing anyway :) And
then go back to lurking.

When I buy jam from the health store that doesn't have any added sugar, it
usually lists fruit juice concentrate (mostly apple). That seems to be the
sweetener/preservative in those spreads.

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#15: Re: I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve Recipe

Posted on 2006-07-16 23:09:47 by Jke

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&gt; Oh pshaw, on Sun 16 Jul 2006 01:42:25p, Jke meant to say...
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
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&gt;&gt;&gt;
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Oh pshaw, on Wed 12 Jul 2006 07:18:43a, Alan S meant to say...
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Oh pshaw, on Tue 11 Jul 2006 01:44:46p, Melba's Jammin' meant to
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; say...
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; In article &lt;<a href="mailto:Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19" target="_blank">Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19</a>&gt;,
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Wayne Boatwright &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Well, I would rather not fail, how do they make those all fruit
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; spreads and jellies you see in grocery stores?
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; With chemicals.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Not really. The ingredients list isn't usually more than fruit,
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; sweetener, pectin, and citric acid. The cheaper spreads are made
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; with corn syrup or high fructose or fructose rather than plain ol'
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; granulated sugar.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Yes, you're right. But I was thinking that the OP wanted to find a
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; way to do this without nutritive sweeteners. Anything else to
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; sweeten it would be something synthetic unless it's just highly
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; concentrated fruit juice.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; --
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The original post was titled &quot;I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Recipe&quot; Wayne. Not, &quot;Please Ask Nature To Provide Me With
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Synthetically Sweetened 100% Fruit&quot; - that would be an unrealistic
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; request.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; My interpretation was that the OP wanted 100% fruit with *nothing*
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; else added, natural or otherwise.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; OK, so knowing that, your response to my query about all fruit spreads
&gt;&gt;&gt; was - &quot;With chemicals&quot; ? That doesn't make any sense Wayne. Or maybe I
&gt;&gt;&gt; should not assume that and I just don't get it. Please tell me, what
&gt;&gt;&gt; 100% fruit spreads are made with chemicals?, which chemicals?, and how
&gt;&gt;&gt; does the product manufacturer avoid scrutiny from the public for
&gt;&gt;&gt; selling something that is supposed to be 100% fruit that is actually
&gt;&gt;&gt; chemicals?
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I should probably stay out iof this, but I'll say one thing anyway :)
&gt;&gt; And then go back to lurking.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; When I buy jam from the health store that doesn't have any added sugar,
&gt;&gt; it usually lists fruit juice concentrate (mostly apple). That seems to
&gt;&gt; be the sweetener/preservative in those spreads.
&gt;
&gt; I would expect that in products from the health food store. Still, these
&gt; are products made in a commercial operation. This might not be easy to
&gt; produce in the home kitchen.
&gt;

It might be manageable if you also buy the fruit juice concetrate from the
health food store when making jam :)

Darn, I said I'd go bakc to lurking!

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#16: Re: I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve Recipe

Posted on 2006-07-16 23:10:07 by Wayne Boatwright

Oh pshaw, on Sun 16 Jul 2006 01:42:25p, Jke meant to say...

&gt;
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&gt;&gt;
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&gt;&gt;&gt; Oh pshaw, on Wed 12 Jul 2006 07:18:43a, Alan S meant to say...
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Oh pshaw, on Tue 11 Jul 2006 01:44:46p, Melba's Jammin' meant to
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; say...
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; In article &lt;<a href="mailto:Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19" target="_blank">Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19</a>&gt;,
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Wayne Boatwright &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Well, I would rather not fail, how do they make those all fruit
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; spreads and jellies you see in grocery stores?
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; With chemicals.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Not really. The ingredients list isn't usually more than fruit,
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; sweetener, pectin, and citric acid. The cheaper spreads are made
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; with corn syrup or high fructose or fructose rather than plain ol'
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; granulated sugar.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Yes, you're right. But I was thinking that the OP wanted to find a
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; way to do this without nutritive sweeteners. Anything else to
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; sweeten it would be something synthetic unless it's just highly
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; concentrated fruit juice.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; --
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The original post was titled &quot;I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Recipe&quot; Wayne. Not, &quot;Please Ask Nature To Provide Me With
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Synthetically Sweetened 100% Fruit&quot; - that would be an unrealistic
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; request.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; My interpretation was that the OP wanted 100% fruit with *nothing*
&gt;&gt;&gt; else added, natural or otherwise.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; OK, so knowing that, your response to my query about all fruit spreads
&gt;&gt; was - &quot;With chemicals&quot; ? That doesn't make any sense Wayne. Or maybe I
&gt;&gt; should not assume that and I just don't get it. Please tell me, what
&gt;&gt; 100% fruit spreads are made with chemicals?, which chemicals?, and how
&gt;&gt; does the product manufacturer avoid scrutiny from the public for
&gt;&gt; selling something that is supposed to be 100% fruit that is actually
&gt;&gt; chemicals?
&gt;&gt;
&gt; I should probably stay out iof this, but I'll say one thing anyway :)
&gt; And then go back to lurking.
&gt;
&gt; When I buy jam from the health store that doesn't have any added sugar,
&gt; it usually lists fruit juice concentrate (mostly apple). That seems to
&gt; be the sweetener/preservative in those spreads.

I would expect that in products from the health food store. Still, these
are products made in a commercial operation. This might not be easy to
produce in the home kitchen.

--
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they are.'

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#17: Re: I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve Recipe

Posted on 2006-07-17 00:24:36 by joe

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&gt;&gt; Oh pshaw, on Sun 16 Jul 2006 01:42:25p, Jke meant to say...
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Oh pshaw, on Wed 12 Jul 2006 07:18:43a, Alan S meant to say...
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;Wayne Boatwright&quot; &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; wrote in
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Oh pshaw, on Tue 11 Jul 2006 01:44:46p, Melba's Jammin' meant
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; say...
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; In article
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19" target="_blank">Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19</a>&gt;,
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Wayne Boatwright &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Well, I would rather not fail, how do they make those all
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; fruit
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; spreads and jellies you see in grocery stores?
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; With chemicals.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Not really. The ingredients list isn't usually more than
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; fruit,
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; sweetener, pectin, and citric acid. The cheaper spreads are
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; made
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; with corn syrup or high fructose or fructose rather than
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; plain ol'
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; granulated sugar.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Yes, you're right. But I was thinking that the OP wanted to
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; find a
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; way to do this without nutritive sweeteners. Anything else to
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; sweeten it would be something synthetic unless it's just
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; highly
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; concentrated fruit juice.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; --
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The original post was titled &quot;I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Preserve
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Recipe&quot; Wayne. Not, &quot;Please Ask Nature To Provide Me With
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Synthetically Sweetened 100% Fruit&quot; - that would be an
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; unrealistic
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; request.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; My interpretation was that the OP wanted 100% fruit with
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; *nothing*
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; else added, natural or otherwise.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; OK, so knowing that, your response to my query about all fruit
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; spreads
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; was - &quot;With chemicals&quot; ? That doesn't make any sense Wayne. Or
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; maybe I
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; should not assume that and I just don't get it. Please tell me,
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; what
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 100% fruit spreads are made with chemicals?, which chemicals?,
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and how
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; does the product manufacturer avoid scrutiny from the public for
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; selling something that is supposed to be 100% fruit that is
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; actually
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; chemicals?
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; I should probably stay out iof this, but I'll say one thing anyway
&gt;&gt;&gt; :)
&gt;&gt;&gt; And then go back to lurking.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; When I buy jam from the health store that doesn't have any added
&gt;&gt;&gt; sugar,
&gt;&gt;&gt; it usually lists fruit juice concentrate (mostly apple). That
&gt;&gt;&gt; seems to
&gt;&gt;&gt; be the sweetener/preservative in those spreads.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I would expect that in products from the health food store. Still,
&gt;&gt; these
&gt;&gt; are products made in a commercial operation. This might not be
&gt;&gt; easy to
&gt;&gt; produce in the home kitchen.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt; It might be manageable if you also buy the fruit juice concetrate
&gt; from the health food store when making jam :)
&gt;
&gt; Darn, I said I'd go bakc to lurking!
&gt;

Yeah, and wayne also said:

&quot;I have nothing further to say on the matter and absolutely nothing to
prove.&quot;
Seems Wayne brings out the worst in people, doesn't it?
Joe

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#18: Re: I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve Recipe

Posted on 2006-07-17 00:50:00 by Wayne Boatwright

Oh pshaw, on Sun 16 Jul 2006 02:09:47p, Jke meant to say...

&gt;
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&gt;&gt; Oh pshaw, on Sun 16 Jul 2006 01:42:25p, Jke meant to say...
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Oh pshaw, on Wed 12 Jul 2006 07:18:43a, Alan S meant to say...
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Oh pshaw, on Tue 11 Jul 2006 01:44:46p, Melba's Jammin' meant to
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; say...
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; In article &lt;<a href="mailto:Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19" target="_blank">Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19</a>&gt;,
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Wayne Boatwright &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Well, I would rather not fail, how do they make those all
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; fruit spreads and jellies you see in grocery stores?
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; With chemicals.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Not really. The ingredients list isn't usually more than fruit,
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; sweetener, pectin, and citric acid. The cheaper spreads are made
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; with corn syrup or high fructose or fructose rather than plain
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ol' granulated sugar.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Yes, you're right. But I was thinking that the OP wanted to find
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; a way to do this without nutritive sweeteners. Anything else to
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; sweeten it would be something synthetic unless it's just highly
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; concentrated fruit juice.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; --
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The original post was titled &quot;I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Recipe&quot; Wayne. Not, &quot;Please Ask Nature To Provide Me With
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Synthetically Sweetened 100% Fruit&quot; - that would be an unrealistic
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; request.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; My interpretation was that the OP wanted 100% fruit with *nothing*
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; else added, natural or otherwise.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; OK, so knowing that, your response to my query about all fruit
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; spreads was - &quot;With chemicals&quot; ? That doesn't make any sense Wayne.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Or maybe I should not assume that and I just don't get it. Please
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; tell me, what 100% fruit spreads are made with chemicals?, which
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; chemicals?, and how does the product manufacturer avoid scrutiny from
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the public for selling something that is supposed to be 100% fruit
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; that is actually chemicals?
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; I should probably stay out iof this, but I'll say one thing anyway :)
&gt;&gt;&gt; And then go back to lurking.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; When I buy jam from the health store that doesn't have any added
&gt;&gt;&gt; sugar, it usually lists fruit juice concentrate (mostly apple). That
&gt;&gt;&gt; seems to be the sweetener/preservative in those spreads.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I would expect that in products from the health food store. Still,
&gt;&gt; these are products made in a commercial operation. This might not be
&gt;&gt; easy to produce in the home kitchen.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt; It might be manageable if you also buy the fruit juice concetrate from
&gt; the health food store when making jam :)

Yes, perhaps so.

&gt; Darn, I said I'd go bakc to lurking!

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#19: Re: I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry Preserve Recipe

Posted on 2006-07-17 00:51:30 by Wayne Boatwright

Oh pshaw, on Sun 16 Jul 2006 03:24:36p, Joe meant to say...

&gt;
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&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &quot;Wayne Boatwright&quot; &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; schreef in bericht
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&gt;&gt;&gt; Oh pshaw, on Sun 16 Jul 2006 01:42:25p, Jke meant to say...
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;Alan S&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:nomail&#64;home.net" target="_blank">nomail&#64;home.net</a>&gt; schreef in bericht
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Oh pshaw, on Wed 12 Jul 2006 07:18:43a, Alan S meant to say...
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;Wayne Boatwright&quot; &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; wrote in
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; message news:<a href="mailto:Xns97FDBF2A82E6wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19..." target="_blank">Xns97FDBF2A82E6wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19...</a>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Oh pshaw, on Tue 11 Jul 2006 01:44:46p, Melba's Jammin' meant
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to say...
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; In article
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19" target="_blank">Xns97FC90F7B5CC7wayneboatwrightatgma&#64;217.22.228.19</a>&gt;,
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Wayne Boatwright &lt;wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Well, I would rather not fail, how do they make those all
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; fruit spreads and jellies you see in grocery stores?
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; With chemicals.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Not really. The ingredients list isn't usually more than
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; fruit, sweetener, pectin, and citric acid. The cheaper spreads
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; are made with corn syrup or high fructose or fructose rather
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; than plain ol'
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; granulated sugar.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Yes, you're right. But I was thinking that the OP wanted to
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; find a
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; way to do this without nutritive sweeteners. Anything else to
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; sweeten it would be something synthetic unless it's just highly
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; concentrated fruit juice.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; --
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The original post was titled &quot;I Need A 100% Fruit Cherry
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Preserve
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Recipe&quot; Wayne. Not, &quot;Please Ask Nature To Provide Me With
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Synthetically Sweetened 100% Fruit&quot; - that would be an
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; unrealistic request.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; My interpretation was that the OP wanted 100% fruit with
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; *nothing* else added, natural or otherwise.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; OK, so knowing that, your response to my query about all fruit
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; spreads was - &quot;With chemicals&quot; ? That doesn't make any sense Wayne.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Or maybe I
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; should not assume that and I just don't get it. Please tell me,
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; what 100% fruit spreads are made with chemicals?, which chemicals?,
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and how does the product manufacturer avoid scrutiny from the
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; public for selling something that is supposed to be 100% fruit that
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; is actually chemicals?
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I should probably stay out iof this, but I'll say one thing anyway
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; :)
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; And then go back to lurking.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; When I buy jam from the health store that doesn't have any added
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; sugar, it usually lists fruit juice concentrate (mostly apple). That
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; seems to
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; be the sweetener/preservative in those spreads.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; I would expect that in products from the health food store. Still,
&gt;&gt;&gt; these are products made in a commercial operation. This might not be
&gt;&gt;&gt; easy to
&gt;&gt;&gt; produce in the home kitchen.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; It might be manageable if you also buy the fruit juice concetrate
&gt;&gt; from the health food store when making jam :)
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Darn, I said I'd go bakc to lurking!
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Yeah, and wayne also said:
&gt;
&gt; &quot;I have nothing further to say on the matter and absolutely nothing to
&gt; prove.&quot;

LOL! Yes, I did say that. What I probably should have said was that I
have nothing further to say to the OP.

&gt; Seems Wayne brings out the worst in people, doesn't it?

:-( :-)

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